Aroree was wrong about www.BitriXTeam.com

[BloodReaver]

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ich verlang aber net von leuten das sie mein englisch kaufen sollen

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[Happy Nihilist]

Original geschrieben von BloodReaver

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ich verlang aber net von leuten das sie mein englisch kaufen sollen

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Ein hinkender Vergleich. Und du kannst die dummen Smileys ruhig wegpacken, ich finde das ganze nämlich alles andere als lustig.

[wahsaga]

Original geschrieben von Happy Nihilist
Ein hinkender Vergleich. Und du kannst die dummen Smileys ruhig wegpacken, ich finde das ganze nämlich alles andere als lustig.

ich finde den vergleich durchaus passend.

[BitriXTeam]

I angree with pekka..

I just think why i'm 27 years old and with skill 9+ years in programming (VB, Delphi, C++, pascal, php, asp, perl and etc.. ) and why should I talk and descuss with each user about him idiots remarks?..

I cannot talk with anyone here and explain what ALL YOUR MESSAGES not meeting name of topic. This topic was only for Aroree.. bcz I sent couple messages and he still do not reply. If anyone can remind Aroree make reply to my message then thank you.

I hope that german have good people like pekka..

P.S. To all: i have had read all your german messages..
so do not worry..

Regards,
Sergey,
www.BitriXTeam.com
Web development: Design and Programming
PHP, ASP, PERL, HTML, MySQL, MSSQL

[Happy Nihilist]

Original geschrieben von wahsaga
ich finde den vergleich durchaus passend.

Ach, und warum? Er verlangt immerhin von mir, dass ich den scheiß lesen muss. Und jetzt kommt mir nicht mit "du kannst ja weggucken". Das ist ein oeffentliches Board das jedermann zugänglich ist. Da kann man nicht sagen: Wenn dir etwas nicht passt, guck doch weg. Und im Gegensatz zu den Russen kann ich hier nicht entscheiden, ob ich es sehen will, oder nicht! Ich werde gradezu genötigt.

[wahsaga]

Original geschrieben von Happy Nihilist
Ach, und warum? Er verlangt immerhin von mir, dass ich den scheiß lesen muss.

kann mich nicht entsinnen, dass er dich angesprochen hätte.

Und jetzt kommt mir nicht mit "du kannst ja weggucken". Das ist ein oeffentliches Board das jedermann zugänglich ist. Da kann man nicht sagen: Wenn dir etwas nicht passt, guck doch weg. Und im Gegensatz zu den Russen kann ich hier nicht entscheiden, ob ich es sehen will, oder nicht! Ich werde gradezu genötigt.

so'n unsinn.

was du dir durchliest und was nicht, ist alleine deine sache.

andernfalls dürfte man nach der logik ja gar nichts mehr posten, was dir nicht in den kram passt.
den nazi-vergleich, den du hier schon mal in irgendeinem zusammenhang gebracht hast, muss ich jetzt hoffentlich gar nicht erst erneut bemühen, um dir zu zeigen, worauf das hinausläuft ...

[BloodReaver]

etz haut euch halt net alle hier! was soll den etz das?

ihr könnt doch etz net einfach hier alle aweng streiten nur weil ein russe kommt und komisches zeug rum labert...



hammer uns doch einfach wieder alle lieb, wie vorher

[Happy Nihilist]

Nazi-Vergleich? Huh? Ich bringe doch keine Nazi-Vergleiche!

Und nein, es geht nicht darum, dass hier keiner mehr wa sposten darf, wa smirt nicht in den Kram passt, aber die Rechte des einzelnen Enden nunmal da, wo die das nächsten Beginnen. Insofern sollte jeder darauf acht gebene, dass das, was er postet, von anderen auch angenommen werden dann.

Und das rumhacken auf den Russen entsteht bei den meisten hier aus einer Hysterie, bzw. einen Mitläufertum; wie bei so vielen Aktionen! Darum gehts einfach: Selbst kein Englisch koennen, es aber dafür benutzen, jemanden zu sagen, etwas sein zu lassen, was er nicht kann. Ironie lässt grüßen! Das war das, was ich in meinem erstenm (oder zweiten) Post gesagt habe, und das ist das, was ich meine. Punkt.

[mrhappiness]

@BitriXTeam
Although I'm not going to become one your customers I hope I'm allowed to write something:
It's difficult to distinguish between real freelancers looking for jobs and people/groups pretending to be freelancers.
The forum "Jobgesuche" is designed to be used by freelancers seeking for work.

In my opinion being a group boosts your chances thundering landing a job outside this forum so it is a big downside for single persons I think and I'm sure you will agree on that.

Of course we all don't know whether you are just a group of 2-3 freelancers or already kind of company. What's the difference between "team of freelancers" and "company"? Would you call 2 people working together call "team of freelancers" or would you call them "company"? And what about 5 people? Or 50? Or 100? Or 1000? How many people do you need for a company?
I believe it's very dififficult to decide on this because we don't want to allow groups of 4 people to post in "Jobgesuche" and groups of 5 people aren't allowed to do so. I hope (and I'm sure) you will understand this.

As far as I'm concerned post in "Jobgesuche" if you really are a small group of freelancers only but bear in mind this:

• don't post into Jobgesuche" on a daily basis, you won't aquire more customers by that
• keep it small and simple
• not directly related to this issue:
  please stop SHOUTING and insulting others
  We are not willing to tolerate this much longer (you're not the only one this is directed to)

Concerning the W3C validator and it's ca. 190 errors: They make the HTML standards and all browsers are supposed to adopt these standards.
Although yor page(s) appear to work and display properly you can't rely on this because some older or newer versions of browser might not display the page the way you intended it to be displayed.
I think if most of these errors concern missing alt-attributes in images it won't be that hard to correct this and you enable (colour) blind people to order pizza at your pizza site for example.
I don't like reading "your page has 12465746346 errors, your so damned stupid you dumbass" and things like that but you should bring to your mind that most future customers here want a page that is guaranted to be usable with every browser and being written adopting the existing standards. If I myself ordered you to write my online-shop for example I don't want a page that is not usable by a small (compared to the entirety) but existant group because they are potential customers for me.

closing rate:
Your behaviour was not correct but you're not the only one who acted wrong in my opinion. Now you have the chance to give proof of your ability to behave correct too.

</flame> !

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whoops, i didn't plan to write that much originally

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[BitriXTeam]

Hello.
I was thinking within last days about all replies here in forum.
I think that… of course I was incorrect here. My behavior was terribly. Please sorry me. If moderator can delete all my last 2 topics with all replies then please do it… In worse way I will feel shame.

Regards Company. In my mind word “company” mean (I sorted it by importance):
1) Guaranteed month or year salary.
2) Office where employees can work
3) As minimum 2 men.
4) 8 hourly working day + 5 working days per week
5) No one worker do additional work on offside and etc….
We do not match points #1 and #2, 4,5.
You correctly understand that group of freelancers will have more chances get project because our skills will be increased. I think no need explain why.
I will repeat we are not a company. We are team of freelancers.

Regards W3C validator. Be fair with you I just here in forum got knowledge about standard (I was trained by Russians books). I working as freelancer and did not hear from any client about requirements for check code via W3C validator or something. . In any way this is not bug and even not error.
In ANY book for HTML wrote: attribute “ALT” can be left. This is ALWAYS will correctly show in ALL browsers. Repeat – this is not error.
For example: call it “error” something like call “bug” misspelling words in comments area – this mean nothing and always will show correct work in all browsers. Or it can be your nag to us and personally me. Please no need discuss about it again.
But in any way: of course thanks for this cool stuff and be sure: in future we will check done by us web sites via validator. Thank you again.

P.S. I always write words with CAPITAL letters if want point here your attention. I not yell here.
P.P.S. I will do reply on your messages only if you will write on English language. I sure you understand why.

Regards,
Sergey,
www.BitriXTeam.com
Web development: Design and Programming
PHP, ASP, PERL, HTML, MySQL, MSSQL

[pekka]

Allright, then everything is fine again

Well, I still won`t give a shit about validators as long as my code works. I know this will cause some uproar among some people here but hey, I`m ready to take it.

Just to do some philosophy... To me, the most important thing that makes a company is that it is legally incorporated as such (In Germany, the most common forms of incorporation are known as GbR, GmbH and AG, the latter two being equal to the anglo-american "ltd" and "plc"), so invoices can be written and any transferred money is subjected to taxation. That is not because I like paying taxes and so on, but because such an entity can take responsibility for a project. In a team of freelancers, the freelancer carries the responsibility for his or her work. If the group takes collective responsibility (and billing) no matter who does the work, I call it a company.

[Aroree]

i agree with pekka...

as you said Sergey Teams/Companys whatever you like to call it, have a bigger chance to get projects this one of the reasons why there are no teams, companys etc. allowed in the jobforum.
The little people need these Jobs/Projects, as you might know the New Market has broken down, not only in Germany, and many people are jobless and try to get trough as One-Man-"Company" in German called Ich-AG, those people need these projects which are offered here. As a Team you mostly get easier Projects so leave those here to the others. Perhaps you try it at www.gulp.de

[BitriXTeam]

You are almost right. But
1) Take a look at our domain name www.BitriXTeam.
Do you see what we by ourselves call it “Team”? J
2) We unite to group in 2-3 men only if we get project and more important if it will be needed (I talk here about requirements for project). If project finished then we scatter for looking another projects. This is piecework. After project is done any freelancer can leave us. But in future he can comeback again. Here have not strongly requirements to personalities of freelancer.
3) Company mean company. Like HP or Panasonic or Sony or Microsoft and etc.
I cannot imagination mean here HPTeam or PanasonicTeam or something… “Company” means here another things.
Another example: football team. This is not company but people here make money and responsible for ended result (I talk about players, not about managers). In next game you will see another composition of players in team. We work in such way.
4) A word “Freelancer” mean be FREE. But word a “Company” means be depend on all people in company and nobody can finish project if another people do not done their parts of work.
5) I think it hard explain but I sure that means under words “Team” or “Company” have alot differences. Plus I more persuaded that we are “Team” but not a “Company”.

P.S. I really cannot understand why You against me get here projects and clients? I'm too want earn money.
What mean here "As a Team you mostly get easier Projects so leave those here to the others"? Who said that get project is easy for us? You are wrong. Yes, I'm competitor for all here but they too competitors for me + they know German language but we not. We have equal chances. Please do not disturb us get project here.

Regards,
Sergey,
http://www.BitriXTeam.com/
Web development: Design and Programming
PHP, ASP, PERL, HTML, MySQL, MSSQL

[Aroree]

Disturb YOU? Sorry this is not your Forum and YOU ARE NOT the person to decide things. So leave it now how it is. Any further Posting of you in Jobgesuche will be deleted. We made our point and rules clear so it's you part to accept it or leave this forum. As I already said, try it at www.gulp.de. There are no teams and companys allowed in the forum Jobgesuche nor will they ever be.

[BitriXTeam]

Hello.

Be easy Aroree.

>>We made our point and rules clear so it's you part to accept it or leave this forum
Just here you said, “Any further Posting of you in Jobgesuche will be deleted”. These are your rules? I shown all arguments and try prove that we are not company (we just freelancers and sometimes we can unite to group)
Plus how I can agree that you want delete “Any further posting” from me?

My current topic calls “Aroree was wrong about www.BitriXTeam.com”.
You were last man who writes here. But you should be first. I think this is reason. I 100% sure you get my emails but did not wish contact with me. And you still do not tried contact with me personally and try solving problem. Aroree, you in each your messages to me always say me leave your forum or I get threaten from you delete my messages. Please be little more correct with me and have respect to me.

Regards,
Sergey,
http://www.BitriXTeam.com/
Web development: Design and Programming
PHP, ASP, PERL, HTML, MySQL, MSSQL